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we have a more sort of science based and intellectually based argument about, you know, the harmful environmental effects versus the economic benefits and come up with the stuff chris is talking about the disclosure on how it's done. there has to be a mechanism of how to do that. >> a lot is behind the curtain of proprietary information. the second thing about the economic benefits of this, mine one is, it's driving down the cost of electricity and it's killing the coal industry from my perspective someone primarily cared about the climate, that's great. coal is a nasty substance. it's bad for people's lungs, bad for the climate, et cetera. driving costs so low it's crowding out renewables. this other effect that can be bad. in terms of jobs, we have the highest levels of employment in natural gas and oil extraction since 1992. the total jobs in extraction 200,000. not creating a lot of jobs in the industry. >> you're going to have more on your show this weekend, my friend. >> tomorrow. >> a little tease. >> tomorrow there's going to be an in depth conversation of fracking. >> and i
change between natural gas and coal is still somewhat a question mark. it looks based on most science we have now cleaner than coal, but we just don't know. we don't know a lot about the local impacts and how long these prices stay low or how long the wells last. there's a lot wi don't know about it, and it's moving so quickly. i think that's why you see a lot of of this. >> there's a lot of fear. >> and you're someone who is familiar with this. you live in upstate. you consulted for the oil and gas industry and you're a toxicologist, right? what are the fears you hear, and what's yue feeling about how people are understanding the process? >> people are not understanding the process at at all. the information is out there. the industry has been doing this for a while. they have the information, but the problem is a lot of people don't believe what the industry says. so even if the industry -- >> which is not ridiculous. let me just say it for the record, right? this is just as a basic kind of -- i think you're right. what ends up happening is you get this debate, right? the natural gas c
, there's so much social science data that shows the best way to control the behavior is to find ways to eliminate it out in the open. cigarette smoking and the impact of reducing young people's taking up cigarettes. >> david? >> i want to pick up what maya mentioned. a concern i have is the question of legalization of marijuana can overshadow the subissues we were talking about. the drug use and effects it has. >> disproportionate facts on latinos. >> in california. >> in dealing with, you know, the health issues. sometimes i think the debate is like legalization, like we were talking earlier. cutting taxes could solve our problems instead of looking at it. >> we want to create this like a health issue. if we had cancer, would we say in early stage cancer, give them a $100 fine. no, if they have a health issue. >> the thing that is key here, we are running the experiment now. we have been having this debate in the abstract. one of the things here, two things. what i find fascinating is it's as much a test of setting up a regulatory regime as a test of legalizing marijuana in prohibit
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